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#245820 Trail etiquette for kids

Posted by Aaron on 12 July 2010 - 05:18 PM

I just found a nice article where some parents explained trail etiquette to their kidlets, check it out here!

  • Stay on the trail. Don’t cut switchbacks or take shortcuts.
  • When it’s a wide trail, like driving, stay to the right and pass on  left.
  • When you stop for a rest get off the trail if others are coming.
  • Yield to hikers coming uphill. They are working harder than those  coming down.
  • When hiking in a large group yield to those who are alone or in a  pair.
  • Hikers and bikers should yield to horses. And bikers should yield to  hikers as well but in most cases hikers will step aside first.
  • Report vandalism
  • Take only pictures, leave only foot prints
  • Look for trail specific rules like no dogs, motorized vehicles or  horses.
  • Be friendly and polite to others on the trail
--Aaron :ballcap:
(those bullet points credited to http://natureforkids.net/ )
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#296028 2013 Flood Aftermath

Posted by John on 14 September 2013 - 08:31 PM

I'm going to offer some reflections from my experience with the tornado that devastated our city and claimed 160 lives. The Red Cross primarily helped with emergency food and shelter. They focused on relief rather than recovery. I'm not knocking that, because we needed relief. They worked with the college and provided shelter for families until FEMA trailers (600+) were hauled in and set. But they didn't save a business from going under or rebuild homes.

Our church received several hundred thousand dollars. Our first step was to find the 105 families in our church whose homes were destroyed and give them a check for $1,000. That may sound like a lot, but it doesn't go very far if you are staying in a hotel or lost your apartment and everything in it and didn't have renter's insurance. Later our members in greatest need were given thousands of additional dollars to help them with house rebuilding or repair (many were grossly under-insured).

For the community, we set up Mission Joplin and gave away free clothing, household goods, furniture, appliances, etc. In the early days we had about 200 families a DAY coming through our facility and getting help, all funded by donations. Two years + later, all of the money that came in has gone to the people who needed it. We didn't use any donated funds for overhead, salaries, etc. It all went to those in need, either in the form of cash or goods. We feel really good about the thousands of families we've been able to help.

If you can find a church or not-for-profit organization doing that kind of work in Colorado, you can often get a charitable contribution credit. If you don't want or need that kind of credit for your income taxes, direct help is not a bad idea. We know who runs businesses in Estes Park and they are going to be hurting due to the lack of tourists. Some of them sell products we can buy online. Some of them would appreciate a check or gift card. Our experience was that some of the most needy families in our church were too proud to ask for help. But when we gave it, they often broke down in tears saying that they didn't know how they were going to make it and that our gift was an answer to prayer.

I'm not telling anyone what to do...follow your own heart on that. This is just my own experience for what it's worth. The need right now isn't for used clothing. A lot of families are going to need some cash to tide them over until they can get back to their property and start the process of rebuilding or relocating.
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#291646 Fatality near upper Fay Lakes Basin

Posted by iceberg on 08 April 2013 - 10:14 PM

When this happened my first thought was the mental angst that Lisa would endure for the days to come. After reading the report I have more respect for her than ever. She is one TOUGH woman. I can't imagine sitting there and watching your hiking partner die. She could have given up right then and there and curled up and died next to him, especially in her physically injured state, but she refused. I have no doubt she would have walked all the way back to the trailhead if that's what it took to survive. The mind is an extremely powerful thing, even more powerful than the body. Because of the strength that she has shown I have no doubt that she will make it through this difficult time and be even stronger as a result.
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#291343 Fatality near upper Fay Lakes Basin

Posted by smudge on 25 March 2013 - 01:51 PM

Hey all... an update on the cause of Dave's death: The coroners report came out yesterday... I was looking at it this morning on a different computer and can't find it now... but the cause of death is officially said to be hypothermia. His injuries from the avalanche were not severe (or not thought to be), he just got too cold and passed out/passed away. This sounds like it could have been due to hypothermia and exposure/exhaustion... body just couldn't handle it all. But officially stating hypothermia. It was horribly cold, windy, snowy, etc and they were already experiencing hypothermia/frost bite earlier in their ordeal... it's amazing Lisa made it out and amazing Dave lasted as long as he did.

And we need to remember that no one is experienced 'enough' to avoid these kinds of events. Part of why we love these mountains is the very fact they are so wild and untamed. It speaks to a deep part of who we are as humans... we just have to remember that these same reasons that draw us to the mountains are the same ones that threaten to endanger us for no other reason other than the mountains being what they are... wild and untamed. It's why it is so rewarding to stand on a summit, or visit a remote lake... we tap into that aspect of the hills and it feeds us! Be careful and thank God for every step you take on those trails, both out AND back!
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#253966 Hector's Longs Peak Report

Posted by hector on 30 September 2010 - 08:50 PM

We came to the rock with the iron bars and I think I liked it even less going this direction. I had to put my foot on the lower bar to get down, and there it was, almost hanging out into space. I heard that Alan took Sandy and Bill a different way, up and over this section? I’d be very interested in hearing about that.

Entering the Keyhole:
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I love this view:
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Sometime during the hike down we had word that Rick had sprained his ankle. We hoofed it through the Keyhole and I grabbed my poles. Then we made our way down the Boulderfield and met everyone at the campsite.

Allen and Chris celebrate a successful summit while taking a quick break at the Keyhole:
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Chris and Jen make their way down the Boulderfield:
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Wow, I love a group in “save” action. Allen and Ed rigged up a crutch for Rick. A guy (climber?) sitting nearby claimed to be a doctor and bandaged Rick’s ankle. I heard the next day that Rick pretty much said, after the doctor left, “take it off. Let Alex do it.” (Alex has had EMT training.) People helped take down Rick and Monica’s tent, and Rick’s pack was divided among some of the younger guys. The majority of the group left to head down and tell a Ranger of Rick’s situation. Rick and Monica slowly started out on their own.

It took a while to get my things packed up from camp. While I was packing we could see Sandy, Bill and Alan coming down the Boulderfield. We waited for them, and John, Allen, Bill, Sandy, Alan and I hiked out. It was late, maybe 5:00pm at that point.  Remember how I said in Part I that I didn’t understand why people would want to walk out in the dark? Well, maybe we didn’t want to walk out in the dark, but we were surely going to do it anyway.

Somewhere down the switchbacks past the Boulderfield, Alan got reception on his iPhone, and Allen called the backcountry office to notify the rangers of Rick’s injury. It was closed and the message said to call 911. So he called 911, and from what he gathered, it sounded like someone had delivered the message to the Rangers, and they were on their way. Alan ran down the trail (with is 35lb pack) and caught up to Rick and Monica to let them know help was on the way. We rejoined Alan and took the Jim’s Grove shortcut back down. I was in “go” mode and just didn’t want to stop. My pack was heavy, and I was tired, and I just wanted to get down. So Allen, John and I kept going, and Bill, Sandy, and Alan followed (later I learned that Sandy had hurt her ankle -- I don’t know how I had missed that part. Sorry, Sandy!!).

The last group:
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The sky started to turn an awesome color during our Jim’s Grove shortcut:

And then it turned REALLY pretty:

The last 2 miles were the absolute worst of any hike I’ve ever done. My feet hurt and the hip belt on my pack had rubbed my skin raw. I girlishly whimpered the last mile. When I saw the sign for the last .5 mile, my eyes tried to make it say “you’re done!”, but it didn’t work. John was supportive and encouraging, and for that I am very thankful.

Would I do Longs again? At the top I said “never.” In the cabin that night, as we devoured our McDonald’s that John so nicely bought for us, I said “never.” Two days after coming home I said “maybe.” And now... “YES!” I would do it again.

And Rick? Well, as most of you know... broken ankle. He hiked from the middle of the Trough to the trailhead on his own volition with a broken fibula. Rick is amazing!

It was a long day for the day-hikers, and it was also a long day for most of us who camped at the Boulderfield. All in all, I think 19 of our Forums group summited Longs Peak that day -- Igloo Ed, Allen (strider), Lora (hector), Monica, Rick (twinebender), Ben (staffaction), Kristin (iceberg), Chuck, John, Chris (junkie), Jen, Alex, Glenn (GlennInPA)+ 3, Alan (BigAl), Sandy (SandyP) and BILL (Bill007)!! GET BILL UP THE HILL WAS A SUCCESS! Kudos to Lori (Lsmith), Jim, (JDgreen), Mike and Staci (renate1) for making it to the Keyhole and a bit beyond.

We were a hiking family who helped each other reach their goals.

As a group we came away with one broken ankle and a few other tweaked ones. A young man lost his life on the Diamond that day, and a man lost his life from falling off the Ledges since we were there; I thank God our group came away safe and sound. Thank you, Longs Peak, for being good to us.

Goodbye Longs Peak! Thank you!
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#246108 A rescue earlier this summer.

Posted by Igloo Ed on 15 July 2010 - 09:08 AM

An interesting read written by the girl resued.
The report is the one dated June 28th Zimmerman Trail.
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#245478 Plane crash in Rocky Mountain National Park

Posted by Aaron on 09 July 2010 - 02:05 PM

Here are the pics...

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--Aaron :ballcap:
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#291685 1st RMNP Trip need advice

Posted by DrCloud on 11 April 2013 - 07:35 PM

Hmm. "Never been out west." First post here.

Well, it's hard to know what to suggest. The first two weeks of May are a real gamble, because it could be quite nice, or it could be a blizzard. Therefore, it's a tough call without knowing more about your experience.

In one sense, this is probably a good time for a visit because there won't be the crowds that always congegate during the real summer season (June-September). But you pay for that with the uncertainty about the weather.

If you're planning on camping, you need to be prepared for winter conditions. If you're planning on staying in a rental cabin or some such place, then it's easier because they all offer TVs and so on to keep you amused should there be one of those late-spring blizzards.

Trail Ridge Road will not be open (too much snow cover even in this rather not-so-snowy year), so that will limit the sight-seeing opportunities. But hiking (if the weather permits) is actually quite wonderful, if you have the right footware.

Just don't underestimate the high country. It doesn't care, and because of that, the people get themselves in trouble. Plan for winter and enjoy the spring if it happens. HPH
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